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    Cryptocurrency Daily Discussion - July 3, 2021 (GMT+0)


    Daily Discussion - July 3, 2021 (GMT+0)

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 05:00 PM PDT

    Welcome to the Daily Discussion. Please read the disclaimer, guidelines, and rules before participating.


    Disclaimer:

    Though karma rules still apply, moderation is less stringent on this thread than on the rest of the sub. Therefore, consider all information posted here with several liberal heaps of salt, and always cross check any information you may read on this thread with known sources. Any trade information posted in this open thread may be highly misleading, and could be an attempt to manipulate new readers by known "pump and dump (PnD) groups" for their own profit. BEWARE of such practices and exercise utmost caution before acting on any trade tip mentioned here.

    Please be careful about what information you share and the actions you take. Do not share the amounts of your portfolios (why not just share percentage?). Do not share your private keys or wallet seed. Use strong, non-SMS 2FA if possible. Beware of scammers and be smart. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose, and do not fall for pyramid schemes, promises of unrealistic returns (get-rich-quick schemes), and other common scams.


    Rules:

    • All sub rules apply in this thread. The prior exemption for karma and age requirements is no longer in effect.
    • Discussion topics must be related to cryptocurrency.
    • Behave with civility and politeness. Do not use offensive, racist or homophobic language.
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    Identifying a scammer who has stolen millions

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 12:40 AM PDT

    {A friend asked me to post this to protect his identity}

    Alright first, I just want to say that Reddit is very much interesed in keeping the scammer's identities hidden. My previous post were removed because I disclosed the scammer's identity.

    Does everyone WANT to get scammed? Here I am trying to bring him to justice and my posts get removed due to some stupid rules. Anyway, now, I will be telling you exactly how to figure his identity out yourself. If the scammer is reading this, he's probably laughing at me.

    No wonder a decentralized message board platform is desperately required.

    This person has been involved in fraud amounting to multiple millions.

    Initially, I came across this website: https://ocen.network/ Knowing it was a pre-sale scam, I ran metadata analysis on each file using https://exiftool.org/. The litepaper displayed the name "XXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXX" as the author.

    To prove that I did not alter the original documents, please check the link below, download the litepaper and run exiftool on it.

    Web Archive:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210625185716/https://ocen.network/

    Amount he's currently hoarding to steal:

    https://bscscan.com/address/0x4d50471035d65810cdb9b34550d46b31bf398cb8

    At time of writing, it holds over 24000 dollars. Once withdrawn, the addresses where he received the money can be seen under "Internal Tnxs".

    Head to:

    https://bscscan.com/token/0x4d50471035d65810cdb9b34550d46b31bf398cb8#comments

    You'll see someone accusing him of being involved in https://e-usd.network scam.

    Web archive:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210630184809/https://e-usd.network/

    Here he withdrew near about 3500 BNBs:

    https://bscscan.com/address/0xa1fd12820f0c1c492dd87f8a0d12043d8f24f8a6#internaltx

    Both the websites are an exact replica. And running metadata analysis, you can see that both websites were originally designed by a certain developer called M_Adnan whose code from https://themeforest.net/user/m_adnan was used for illegal use.

    I urge all crypto trading platforms to freeze his assets. Currently he's involved in another project https://moonvest.network/index.html.

    webarchive:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210630162427/https://moonvest.network/

    He has publicly stated in Linkedin that he's involved in moonvest network, so putting its whitepaper through exiftool shows the exact same author "XXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXX" and both the whitepapers look exactly the same.

    Report him to the authorities: USCIS, FTC, SEC, FBI, Seattle Police, all crypto trading platforms, Amazon(his employer), etc.

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    A brief rundown of the top 50 coins by category

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 04:27 AM PDT

    Currency

    The primary function of these coins is to be used as a decentralised token of value which can be exchanged between peers without the need for banks or other intermediaries.

    (1) Bitcoin (BTC)

    (7) Ripple (XRP)

    (13) Bitcoin Cash (BCH)

    (14) Litecoin (LTC)

    (21) Stellar (XLM)

    (31) Bitcoin SV

    Stablecoins

    These coins use various methods to peg their value to that of the U.S. Dollar, thus allowing them to be used as both a store of value and a medium of exchange without the risk of volatility,

    (3) Tether (USDT)

    (8) USD Coin (CSDC)

    (10) Binance USD (BUSD)

    (23) Dai (DAI)

    (48) Terra USD (UST)

    Distributed computing / smart contracts

    These are coins tied to a network which provides a distributed, decentralised blockchain network, which apps can then be built upon. Some of their features include smart contracts, non-fungible tokens, digital identity and decentralised finance. Having a coin tied to the blockchain enables users to be paid for securing the network and to pay for using the services provided by the network.

    (2) Ethereum (ETH)

    (4) Cardano (ADA)

    (5) Binance Coin (BNB)

    (13) Solana (SOL)

    (18) Ethereum Classic (ETC)

    (25) Tron (TRX)

    (27) Eos (EOS)

    (32) Algorand (ALGO)

    (36) Neo (NEO)

    (38) Klaytn (KLAY)

    (39) Tezos (XTZ)

    (43) Iota (MIOTA)

    (46) Avalance (AVAX)

    Exchange tokens

    These coins are associated with an exchange and holding them allows people using that exchange certain benefits, such as reduced fees or staking rewards.

    (5) Binance coin (BNB) - also listed above

    (10) Uniswap (UNI)

    (30) Crypto.com coin (CRO)

    (33) FTX token (FTT)

    (37) PancakeSwap (CAKE)

    (44) Unis Sed Leo (LEO)

    (50) Huobi token (HT)

    Privacy coins

    Coins attached to blockchains which aim to provide anonymity to users and conceal their activities.

    (26) Monero (XMR)

    Decentralised finance

    These coins provide various functions/benefits in the DeFi ecosystem, such as lending, earning interest or collatorising assets.

    (29) Aave (AAVE) - decentralised finance protocol

    (34) Maker (MKR) - stablecoin pegging mechanism for DAI

    (41) Terra (LUNA) - stablecoin pegging mechanism for UST

    (42) Amp (AMP) - collatoralising asset transfers

    (45) Compound (COMP) - DeFi lending protocol

    Specialised coins

    These are coins/blockchains that perform a specialised function not covered in the above categories.

    (9) Polkadot (DOT) - network of blockchains

    (15) Chainlink (LINK) - Oracle network providing data to blockchains

    (16) Polygon (MATIC) - Layer 2 ethereum solution

    (19) Internet computer (ICP) - Decentralised cloud computing

    (20) Theta (THETA) / (47) Theta Fuel (TFUEL) - improves video streaming services

    (22) VeChain (VET) - business supply chain management

    (24) Filecoin (FIL) - decentralised storage solution

    (35) Cosmos (ATOM) - network of blockchains

    (49) Decred (DCR) - decentralised voting platform

    Wrapped bitcoins

    These are representations of bitcoin on other blockchains. Their prices are pegged to the price bitcoin.

    (17) Wrapped bitcoin (WBTC)

    (40) Bitcoin BEP2 (BTCB)

    Memecoins

    Coins that were created as a meme or for fun.

    (6) Dogecoin (DOGE)

    (28) Shiba Inu (SHIB)

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    Yesterday I tipped 100 moons to the moonless and 2 things became apparent...

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 07:45 AM PDT

    I was tipped my first moon a couple of months ago and it felt awesome! So yesterday I figured I would tip out moons to people that didn't have any. Two things became apparent #1 about half the people commenting did not know what a moon even was #2 a lot of the people commenting did not know they had to unlock their vault. If you just comment "what are moons" a bot will give you a link to a detailed description of what a moon is and how to set up your vault (which is an eth wallet). I will actually comment below and spawn the bot for those who want to learn about moons/vault. A few people activated their vault just to discover they already had some moons. I hope this helps a few people.

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    "There is no bottom!" Some thoughts on my rather lucid experiences at two crypto price bottoms

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 06:19 PM PDT

    Perhaps this post is coming a bit late and the bottom is already in, perhaps not, but regardless at some point there will be a bottom as the market continues on its inexorable ascendancy (to the moon etc)

    Ruminating over the last few years in crypto I thought I would give some thoughts on my personal experiences on two significant crypto bottoms - the 2018 bear market bottom and the late 2019 bottom.

    Missing from this is the March 2020 Covid bottom (I was up in the mountains on a work retreat with no internet - a saving grace I guess) and the dreadful 2014 bottom (I paper handed my crypto well before that point).

    2018 - BTC falls to $3,100

    The first thing I will say is this. What seems to be universally accepted as the bottom is often not, and when we actually bottom, the crowd all thinks we are going lower. And when I say "the crowd", I don't just mean retail buyers but all the professional traders, charters etc. There is even a Tone Vayes video out there where he says "the most likely scenario is a fall to $1,300".

    One observation here is that every man and his dog (or should I say Shibu Inu?) and buys set laddering down. Most people (including myself) had buys at $2,800, $2,400, $1,800 and $1,300. Much like $28,000 now, $2,800 was seen as a foregone conclusion (I currently have buys set down to $18k by the way).

    Another observation was that previously it had seemed almost accepted that $5,800 or so was the real bottom. Once that collapsed nearly 45% or so, suddenly everybody doubted themselves and assumed they were perpetually wrong.

    And yes there was a lot of depression and even embarassment. Oh how the media crowed in delight at the downfall of bitcoin. "Bitcoin is the worst performing currency except the Venezuelan Bolivar!" proclaimed our local paper (note how it IS a currency when they want it to be). I literally dreaded going to Christmas because my family (who are obsessed with property) would all be asking me how my bitcoins were going (my Mum literally calls them "bit corns" which is kind of funny). And of course my Uncle who is a multi-millionaire with a dozen properties laughed and said "well at least you bought a property so that was one sensible thing you did". (It was literally your nightmare scenario where there are 30 people on a giant table in a giant mansion, and I'm on the end, and all my cousins and aunties and sisters etc all swivel their heads immediately like lightning as quickly as possible to photographically memorize the image of my soul leaving my body).

    The other thought was how absolutely PAINFUL it was to buy crypto. Especially alt coins. There may as well have been acid entrenched nails embedded into the keyboard when I clicked buy. And when you look at the prices (check CMC historical snapshot around Dec 15 2018) just look at those bargain basement prices - literally life changing money right there. And god forbid actually telling anyone you were still buying. And now think back and imagine people had four months to buy bitcoin in the 3ks, BNB below $10, ADA for a couple of cents etc.

    And then at some point we entered a "boring phase" (a bit like now) when nobody seemed to really, every pump was assumed to be a fake out. Then suddenly, like a button was pushed (it was actually 5:15 pm, NZT on our April 2) the market jumped 22% in one hour - BTC went from $4,200 to $5,215 and that was the end of the bear market forever.

    Personally I DO feel like our recent bottoms (around $30k with a wickdown) is reminiscent of that period - in fact, divide the price by ten, look at the charts, and its actually fairly similar price action.

    So the lesson here is that the bottom is never seen as the bottom which I find interesting because on twitter there literally calls for 12k or even 3k!

    2019 - Bitcoin falls to $6,500

    So in 2019 the bear market finally ended and something incredible happened. Bitcoin went from $4k to $14k or so in just a couple of months. We all thought we were entering a hyper bull run, Facebook announced project libra and we were going straight to the moon. What we didn't know was that a Chinese scam called Plus Token was causing millions of people to fomo into buying up BTC, and that they would exit scam at the top and start dumping their tokens for six months (I really hope those two African guys that ran off with 3.6 billon of BTC don't do the same thing!)

    And then we dumped, and dumped, and keep perpetually dumping all the way down to 7k. Yes, another 50% fall! They do happen without a new bear market starting. My boss would say to me "How is bitcoin going? Oh its down that much? So that's a 50% drop isn't it? Good then back to work and don't waste your time on that crypto thing" (forgetting that I have dozens of crypto clients etc)

    We then had our rally relief when President Xi literally mentioned the word blockchain and it sent bitcoin up 42% in around 7 hours (I remember the top at $10,300 vividly as I had promised my wife I would attend an art exhibition on Danish furniture so instead of selling the top and taking profit I was looking at strange colored chairs).

    And then.... we dumped and dumped some more! So aside from the "xi pump" we had six months of perpetual dumping and then once $7k was lost the slide accelerated. Again, I vividly remember the exact bottom. I had crashed my car so had to take a taxi back home. I was browsing telegram at around the $6,500 bottom at the end of 2019, and one of my trader friends (who is fairly experienced and a bit of a whale) exclaimed "THERE IS NO BOTTOM". And sure enough, that was the exact bottom.

    The moment that psychologically you feel you MUST SELL RIGHT NOW. Just like at $65k, $20k, $1.3k and all other generational tops you feel like taking out a giant mortgage or selling the house to go all in (I sold my entire share portfolio to buy a Raydium / Solona farm when BTC was $52k so I can relate).

    So this bottom was quite different to 2018 as there was just six months of dumping instead of a single massive collapse in price (again, blame plus token here). But like now, we again had a "boring" period where we were stuck around $7k, people stopped checking the prices and started enjoying Christmas etc and all the mania and excitement was gone.

    So maybe one day I'll write this again and add 2021 to the list. Maybe I'll add 2023 or something as well. But there either has been a bottom or there will be at some point. Stick around and consider it another medal to add to your collection, or a story for the grandkids! While in late 2018 you felt ashamed to even mention bitcoin, now I like to talk about the great bear market like I'm some old war vet talking about my experiences of Operation Market Garden and the battle for Arnhem Bridge.

    EDIT: Perhaps I should add one more thing that may be useful with regard to the current market. For all of the bottoms (including the Covid Crash) I feel there are three distinct emotional states:

    1. Utter panic, mayhem, can't stop looking at the price - "should I sell?" etc etc. I had coffee with a OG the other day. He lost around USD $20M (needless to say his fingernails were somewhat chewn off). He still has a huge chunk so he is okay.
    2. Sadness and depression "I really could have used that money.... well that was dumb.... I guess I have to work in my slave job another 5 years or so)
    3. Boredom. "Ah crypto sucks, I'll just forget about it and start buying stocks. I'll leave my btc and see what happens".
    4. (FINAL edit): Acceptance. "Hey guys, let me tell you about that time I lost a million dollars in a week from safemoon, its a hilarious story! Yeah I chucked my ledger nano away, I'm really glad I finally left crypto behind, by the way, did I tell you how much my ARK-G ETF shares are doing this week?"

    I feel like maybe we are starting to get to the third phase. Certainly I'm checking the prices a lot less and volumes are a bit down (and I dunno, maybe I have a bit of a sixth sense now after all these years. I even avoided buying Titan Finance at the last minutes, and bought and sold Safemoon at its top. And hey, BTC is up $1000 since this post at least!)

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    One day commenting in this sub, nine scam attempts. Here’s what to look out for.

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 05:50 AM PDT

    Been reading and upvoting posts here for a little while, and I made my first comments yesterday.

    The result: nine chat requests from scammers in one day. I messed around with the first couple, then just hit "ignore" on the rest.

    Wanna know if that new message is a scam attempt? Here are some keywords to look out for: "Forex" "Trading" "Bitcoin" "10x" "Telegram" "How ya doing?" "The" "Hi"

    That's right: any word in a chat is a scam keyword.

    Stories of people getting scammed make me really sad. Don't be that guy or gal. It's safe to assume that 100% of people who contact you are trying to move your coins from your wallet to theirs.

    Be safe.

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    Bitcoin now has roughly the same number of users that the Internet had in 1997, and it’s growing at a much fast rate. In the next 4 years at this pace, adoption will reach levels the internet saw in 2005.

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 07:21 AM PDT

    It's so weird as someone with a 100% alt coin portfolio, all I can focus on is Bitcoin.

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 05:32 PM PDT

    If it gets under $28.8k then basically I'm fucked apparently.

    Or if it goes over $x amount then btc will go on a rampage and take all the alts with it. Happy days.

    Everything hinges on Bitcoin, if it loses its support then all the alts tumble.

    Or if it gets above a certain amount then all the main alts will start increasing with it resulting in alt coin utopia.

    It's got to the point where it doesn't really matter if you DYOR.

    Many projects are great in their own right. ZIL, MATIC, VET, ALGO, XTZ, SOL, ONE, the list goes on.

    Each with their passionate developers trying to make their technology the best it can be. But ultimately the value of their work is down to bitcoin. At any point however good their latest innovation is, their market value plummets as soon as something or "someone" makes the price of bitcoin change, then suddenly everything else changes too.

    It's ridiculous tbh. My portfolio is pretty much either red or green from top to bottom. All these alt coins. A sea of green or red all dependent on bitcoin.

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    A Summary of “Why Proof of Stake” by Vitalik Buterin

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 06:29 AM PDT

    This is my attempt to summarize a recent blog post by Vitalik Buterin. This is a learning exercise for myself and critiques are welcome. If you feel something can be summarized better, please comment.

    Link to the article - November 2020

    3 Reasons by Proof of Stake is better for blockchain security than Proof of Work

    1) More Security for the same cost

    • Compare how much it costs to attack a network per $1 per day in block rewards
    • GPU-based PoW
      • GPUs can be rented or bought, so the cost of attacking a network is the cost of renting or buying enough GPUs to outrun existing miners.
      • This is the cheapest network to attack.
    • ASIC-based PoW
      • Like GPUs, the cost of attacking the network is the cost of buying and running an ASIC. If a 51% attack occurs and the consensus is to change the mining algorithm, the ASICs are bricked.
      • ASICs provide more security than GPUs, but at the cost of more centralization due to high cost/access of ASICs in general
      • This is much more expensive to attack than GPU-based
    • Proof of Stake
      • The network is more secure as more coins are deposited
      • Deposited coins do not depreciate like ASICs
      • Participants should be willing to pay much higher capital costs(staking their coins) for the same reward
      • The more coins staked, the harder it is for any one actor/group of actors to garner enough to attack the network
      • This is much more expensive to attack than ASIC-based PoW

    2) Attacks are easier to recover from in Proof of Stake

    • If a PoW chain gets 51% attacked, the response has historically been to wait until the attacker gets bored and stops
    • In GPU-based PoW there is no real defense against 51% attacks and a persistent attacker could render the whole chain useless.
    • For ASIC-based PoW, the response to a 51% attack is to change the PoW algorithm, which bricks every ASIC on the network. The good and the bad.
      • This can be done only once until the network becomes GPU-based.
      • If the attacker is motivated enough, they could then attack the network freely
    • Proof of Stake
      • There are built in "slashing" mechanisms
        • If a nefarious actor is detected by the network, their staked coins are cut by a significant portion
        • The community can also coordinate a user-activated soft for (UASF)
        • No hard-fork is required
        • Attacking the chain once will cost a lot and will not come close to destroying the chain
        • Two attacks would cost much more as the attacker would need to buy tokens enough to replace the tokens they lost.
        • It is asymmetric in favor of the network

    3) Proof of stake is more decentralized than ASICs

    • GPU-based PoW is pretty decentralized as it is not very hard to get a GPU
    • It is hard(expensive) to get ASICs in the quantity needed to compete with other miners
    • There is the argument that, in Proof of Stake, the richer get richer
      • The counter is that the alternative, ASIC-based PoW, is even more tilted in favor of the rich
      • More people will be able to run an Eth validator than will be able to amass ASICs
      • Proof of stake is more censorship resistant as it cannot be detected based on the amount of heat/electricity being produced by GPUs/ASICs

    Possible advantages of Proof of Work

    • Two primary genuine advantages of PoW over PoS
    • PoS is a closed system, leading to higher wealth concentration over the long term
      • It is much easier to delegate validating responsibilities in PoS, as it doesn't require effort on the individual other than deciding where to stake.
      • The response is that running a validator in Eth2 will not be overly profitable and it becomes less profitable as more validators join
      • It would take a long time for significant concentration(100 years to double) and other things like spending the money, donating to charity, giving to children, will likely take over.
    • PoS requires "weak subjectivity" and PoW doesn't
      • Weak Subjectivity - the first time a node comes online, the node has to find a third-party source to determine the correct head of the chain. This could be their friend, exchanges, bad actors, etc.
      • The response is that this level of trust is needed anyway. In BTC, for example, we trust the developers to develop.
      • The risks to this seem much less than the rewards that PoS offers in comparison to PoW
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    A super useful website to help understand the market cap potential of alt coins!

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 11:33 PM PDT

    Huge shout out to u/lovinglyhandmade who created this website and wonderful tool!

    This website really helps to understand a cryptocurrency's market cap and is a great tool to help in understanding the relative size and the potential upside of different coins!

    Example: "if coin X had market cap of coin Y, it would be worth $Z"

    https://thecoinperspective.com/?c=NANO

    Features:

    • Supports the top 500 non-stable coins/tokens as per CoinMarketCap data
    • Quickly see impact of different market caps using a slider, as well as input a hypothetical amount of coins to calculate total worth
    • Supports multiple reference fiat currencies (USD,JPY,GBP,CHF,CAD,AUD,HKD,CNY)
    • Coin data is auto-refreshed every 3 hours, including Fiat exchange rates
    • Mobile friendly
    • No ads, no spam
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    The Moneyfest Hypothesis on I O T A

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 07:23 AM PDT

    The Moneyfest Hypothesis on I O T A

    Beforehand, I apologize for this long analysis. I cannot provide a tl;dr because I wouldn't know how. Too much information.

    Hi friends, it looks like the storm is slowing down. Crypto is not dead yet. Who would have thought /s.

    I have written three posts so far.

    First, my "prediction" on SBS about the incentivized test network that is coming in I O T A . Unfortunately, my estimate of 3 weeks was way off. I think it's due to technical difficulties and the big total cap crash. My mistake. Should have listened to Hofstadter's law.
    It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

    But from my POV the plan remains a reality.

    I expect an announcement from the I O T A Foundation on this subject in the short or medium term.

    Anyone who then owns I O T A will get test-network tokens, so effectively an airdrop. The suspense continues.

    My other post was here in this sub, describing I O T A from my perspective as a data analyst. (If you have no idea about I O T A, you should probably read this first, just click on my name and see my posts. I don't link directly due to the automoderator that is a bit harsh today)

    My last contribution has been a comparison between ADA and I O T A. Great projects, both of them.

    I am very pleased that my views have been so well received and I thank everyone for the mostly positive reactions and great discussions that we have seen.

    That's crypto for me: progress, cooperation, friendly competition, and huge returns for the patient people.

    As the title suggests, I will describe here today why I O T A will increase in value in the long term, away from the market, away from whims and emotions, market cycles, or Musk'ian tweetstorms.

    The Moneyfesto Hypothesis. (Just a play on words)

    I'll start by explaining why I O T A is not being hyped at the moment, i.e. why it is not subject to twitter-supported hype phases or the focus of YouTubers and TikTok-influencers.

    And why that will change.

    Reason 1)

    I O T A is a charitable non-profit in Germany.

    Apart from the fact that Germans have no sense of humor, so they say, they are also very precise with their statutes and laws.

    The I O T A Foundation is not allowed to do speculation-based advertising, to spend money on it, or to hire companies with the sole aim of raising the token price. They are solely here to work in favor of the people. Legally bound to do good.

    This comment is without judgment:

    Other projects hire large advertising companies and are very active in terms of hype and monetary incentives.

    I think there is hardly a founder who does not leave weekly speculation-focused comments, of course as a self-purpose. That's how the world works, that's how crypto works. I O T A, however, cannot use this strategy for itself.

    It is what it is. Capitalism works.

    Reason 2)

    The past is still shaping public opinions, even though the technology has changed, the people responsible have left the stage, and I O T A has taken the criticism as an opportunity to implement the recommendations in such a way that it now works and that it can be integrated into a meaningful way.

    I O T A has learned from this, but it takes a while to get the smell off the coat.

    Reason 3)

    The previous point may have put I O T A in a position where it has to deliver before the crypto establishment around Kraken, Coinbase, Bitstamp, et al, will consider I O T A sustainably trustworthy and let the past be the past.

    This barrier means that the majority of US investors have only a few or poor gateways into I O T A.

    Reason 4)

    I O T A has a single point of failure: the coordinator.

    The crypto mainstream establishment is ideological. It will not negotiate on some issues.

    Without I O T A 2.0, this is unlikely to change much. Time and effort have shown that.

    Reason 5)

    I O T A is more or less European centristic and has most of its supporters based in German-speaking countries. Influencers and spokespersons for I O T A are largely based in these countries. Google Trends is pretty clear on that.

    Reason 6)

    As a non-profit, no influencers can be paid.

    As we all know, advertising in Cryptoland mostly works by giving large amounts of money to Youtubers, Twitter personalities, or TikTok influencers, who then write reviews, record videos, and direct their audience towards their clients.

    Since I O T A does not have legal access here either, the entire influencer market remains closed.

    Reason 7)

    The hype advantage of other projects may mean that investor capacities are exhausted in a way that there is nothing left for I O T A under these conditions, for now.

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    Those who have read this far know that these are all good reasons to give I O T A little chance on the market, but there are decisive reasons and mechanisms that will nevertheless put I O T A in an excellent position.

    Reasons that lie outside of crypto, but will also play a role in crypto through a positive feedback- loop and make I O T A one of the great projects.

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    The Moneyfesto Hypothesis:

    In order to form this idea into a hypothesis, I would first like to explain the working principle of a feedback loop.

    It is a self-reinforcing effect that increases in strength to, again, reinforce itself.

    The classic example is a startled herd of cattle that is further startled by the panic of the individual cows and thus develops even more panic.

    positive feedback loop

    Feedback loops can also be negative, such as the effects of bad press on the price of an asset, which in turn gets even more bad press and ultimately ruins the asset altogether.

    Feedback loops are natural processes that have more or less predictable end results due to causal reactions.

    Nevertheless, we must treat the following example as a hypothesis rather than a thesis, because no one has a crystal ball and causal chains can never be predicted in a complex reality, especially not in an endlessly interconnected and inherently chaotic landscape like Cryptoland.

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    I O T A has a unique way of working and, with I O T A 2.0, a new way of generating monetary incentives.

    Bitcoin incentives, as a reference, work like this:

    Bitcoin miners provide computing power that secures the network.

    In return for this service, the fastest miners find blocks filled with Bitcoins in a race against other Bitcoin miners.

    These bitcoins can be sold at a high price and complete the security circle through incentives.

    Of course, this explanation is incorrect in the sense that essential peculiarities are not explained by me, but it is valid as a basic rule:

    Those who help the network are compensated.

    Since this technology is decentralized, and there is little that can be done against participation in the mining process other than regulation and laws, these incentives are extremely strong, and inevitably lead to the Bitcoin network being extremely secure.

    I O T A incentives work differently because there is no mining, none or negligible proof of work, and no network fees that can be paid to miners. It's free to use and full nodes ( as a replacement for miners) don't earn money directly.

    I O T A's incentives are completely novel and, at first glance, incomplete:

    It's really just about:

    -trust

    and

    -industrial competition

    As I explained in the second of my Reddit posts, I O T A is trying to offer a so-called global web of trust that offers data transactions in addition to monetary transactions, at zero cost.

    This means that digital identities can be created within the machine economy -free of charge- via the T a n g l e, giving the issuer, i.e. the company with a specific use case, a cost-efficient competitive advantage, because proprietary solutions, centralized solutions, stand in the way of a global, open and trustworthy machine-to-machine economy to such an extent that they don't even make it past the planning stage in today's world.

    Large companies have realized that the competitive advantage can only be fully realized if they are allowed to be part of an open, decentralized network that provides their machines and sensors with trust that they cannot provide as a central entity.

    The power of trust lies in the common interest to offer and to leverage on data that is verified by the many, and the I O T A protocol allows the efficiency of entire systems to be maxed out within a zero-margin economy without relying on third-party vendors who charge horrendous costs and lack trust in return.

    What exactly does that mean?

    It means that millions of companies want to and will use I O T A as a web of trust, and as proof, industry leaders like Dell, Intel, Zebra, and the Linux foundation are already building I O T A-based solutions, categorically ruling out proprietary solutions. (I believe google provides sources if needed)

    The result is that in the game-theoretic milieu of the industry, the big players are providing solutions that can offer, from the very beginning, an unattainable cost-efficiency that can never be achieved by proprietary solutions.

    Why does this matter when we look at positive feedback loops and incentives?

    This is good and easy to explain and the absolute main point of hypothesizing.

    Because I O T A works differently.

    I O T A 2.0 will offer a higher bandwidth of message-based transactions when tokens are parked on an address of an associated node, giving it a computational counterpart: Mana for behaving well.

    Mana is a value that generally cannot be sent individually and is tied to the tokens, allowing for more transactions.

    Mana is divided into two values, access Mana and consensus Mana, which make it practically impossible for attackers to collect Mana and perform 31% or even 51% attacks, but I'll leave the technical nuances aside.

    If you are interested, you are welcome to read and evaluate the updated information directly from the source. Just google "I O T A 2.0 specifications 5.3 Mana"

    Though, it seems like there will be a way to pledge earned Mana to nodes people do trust, effectively give some players the option to not own tokens, which comes in handy if a company is not in a position to buy tokens by law.

    But regarding Mana, the only point to remember in this discussion is the following:

    Most use-cases work without tokens, so companies don't buy them to send messages. Token-based services will be used in other parts of the industry, especially in e-commerce where minimal transactions, even sub-cent amounts, enable new applications (token streaming, fair subscription models, etc). Another huge field that will eventually raise the price, but it's not a unique characteristic because some other projects offer zero fees as well.

    Most use-cases are based on the message function, which is directly dependent on the number of tokens parked at an address in terms of bandwidth and the number of transactions they can conduct. Considering how most of these applications are planned, we have to assume that even a handful of companies will have to conduct thousands of transactions a second, in order to provide a reliable backbone for eg. self-sovereign identities in the realm of automation and digital identities.

    This means that companies will still need tokens unless they just need a few transactions per hour.

    So the positive feedback loop within an unrivaled industrial landscape looks like this:

    Companies want the best positioning to grow their service and beat competitors.

    For this position, they need to take the most cost-efficient solution. In the field of M2M, this is without a doubt I O T A. No ledger can offer these services cheaper unless it is centralized or permissioned.

    This results in a paradoxical situation: a race for tokens that are not actually used directly, but which have to be owned for "message transactions".

    In other words, the feedback loop and the hypothesis look like this:

    I O T A offers the best platform for messages and companies buy tokens.

    Companies see the competitive advantage of competitors and in turn buy tokens as well.

    The I O T A Foundation built I O T A to be non-inflationary, so there is a finite number (only 2 of the top 100 projects on Coingecko did it like this).

    If I O T A works and the test projects (there are hundreds) grow to production maturity, there will be a tech bubble just around I O T A.

    This tech bubble will behave like any other bubble, except that token holders will not have bought a worthless asset with questionable intrinsic value, but the permission to participate in the market.

    The latter describes the real incentive of I O T A.

    A company wants to participate in the global web of trust, so it needs to own tokens in order to offer large and expanding applications where millions of transactions are needed on a daily basis.

    Unique platform -> companies want to use it -> token purchases -> competing companies cannot keep up -> more token purchases-> global web of trust established -> rinse and repeat.

    This circumstance negates reasons 1-7 and offers an investment reason apart from Crypto, which is supported by the standardization efforts of the Object Management Group and Ecl@ss.

    Both standardization institutions are in the advanced stages of defining I O T A as an official standard and providing a regulated, global, secure alternative to the world's centralized and non-scaling information networks.

    With this in mind, it's my personal opinion that the positive feedback loop will only be strengthened by Crypto because, at some point, Crypto influencers realize what I realized:

    I O T A adoption means increasing token purchases with no end unless there is an unexpected change of events like an alternating version of I O T A's and Manas functionality.

    I would sell snake oil if I claimed to know when a critical mass of adoption is reached, but strategic companies and global players tend to act quickly when the facts are clear, and the confirmation of the Moneyfesto hypothesis seems to be linked to defining a global standard for I O T A 2.0 that will allow the industry to get in in clear regulatory and practical terms.

    I expect the first reaction within months and a confirmation of the hypothesis within 2 years when I O T A 2.0 is integrated into the mainnet without major detours.

    There is no ETA on I O T A 2.0, but there is a rough timeframe of Q4 21' or Q1 22'.

    As a next step, I will try to work with a statistician to develop a model that will attempt to calculate a possible critical mass moment in time, based on metrics such as maximum token count, current test projects, outlined developments in the I o T, and facts such as standardization dates.

    This model will be just another piece of the hypothesis-puzzle, and will not be binding or causal, but it will provide another clue to the future of I O T A's adoption curve.

    The main take-away information is that the entire feedback loop can only work with I O T A because it's the one and only project that offers this tokenization at zero fees, with a ("zero token / zero value") message function that doesn't rely on mining or fees.

    This is my personal analysis and no advice on anything. I look forward to fruitful discussions. This is what it's all about.

    Thank you for your attention and have a great weekend.

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    Stellar Lumens are awesome, and almost too useful. Great for circumventing fund transfer delays on exchanges.

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 08:06 AM PDT

    Hello fellow crypto zealots. I have a personal observation on XLM. It is so useful for moving money between exchanges and wallets that I have a lot of trouble holding it.

    I first bought into XLM at around 10 cents, but was never able to hold it for long. It's so fast and cheap to move it.

    For example, I use Coinbase pro to purchase assets and there is a waiting period from the time I deposit my fiat, to the time I can move my new assets to my wallet. When I purchase a coin I want to stake immediately like ATOM or ALGO, I just transfer an equal value of XLM from my wallet back to the exchange. This allows me to bypass the waiting period and start staking my new coins instantly. Then when my deposit clears, I just move it back for almost nothing, instantly. I'm sure a lot of you do this, but I felt like I discovered fire the first time i thought of this and wanted to share it.

    I am bullish on stellar and think it's future is bright, even if it has been moving sideways for a bit. I still find it so useful that it is difficult for me to leave it alone.

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    Looking for someone who could benefit from moons

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 08:02 AM PDT

    Attn: mods - sorry for irrelevant flair not sure what this falls under

    I typically give my moons out to people who mention they're living in situations where even a few usd could make a huge difference in their lives. I havent been as active on the sub recently as my business has really taken off and I havent come across any good candidates for my meager amount of moons. So please, if youre living somewhere moons actually make a difference, id love to give them to you. Comment below, and perhaps moon rich people will help you out, who knows? Thank you and I love you all

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    Smart investors don’t just buy dips, they dollar-cost average

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 05:32 AM PDT

    On Saturday, July 3, Bitcoin's network’s mining difficulty will see the largest epoch drop in history as the difficulty is set to slide by more than 27%

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 07:06 PM PDT

    Bought a shitcoin. Almost got a heart attack.

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 09:36 AM PDT

    I put 0.01BNB each in some shitcoins a month ago. Get and forget.

    I check my wallet today and i see 8 zeros.
    Phoenix Protocol token (PHX) is at $0.08 which makes my "bag" worth $300M.

    Immediate palpitation.
    I know it can't be true but what if i accidentally bought into some insane rugpull.
    Logic and reason out of the window. I close doors, pull window covers.
    TrustWallet shows the price spiked moments ago! CMC shows the same!!!
    Heart racing, hands shaking. Don't be too late!
    Connecting to pancakeswap to get my millions... 0.004BNB

    I was already in the process of making a "help me cash this out please" post when i found their week-old tweet saying "CMC and Trustwallet seem to be displaying the incorrect price for Phoenix. It is a glitch unfortunately."

    What a ride.

    During old days of casual playing lotteries i always imagined how would i feel if during numbers reveal mine would match.
    I feel like i had this experience today and it felt both exciting and scary.

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    JP Morgan Eyes Ethereum Staking as ‘Fast Growing Revenue Opportunity'

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 02:13 PM PDT

    My boss thanked me because of crypto and may give me a raise

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 07:14 PM PDT

    So yesterday my boss came to me and thank me for my hard work. How I have been a ideal employee as I have been staying in late at work and doing such a fantastic job with the work handed to me. He even suggested that he will bump up my salary if I continue.

    This is all thanks to crypto! Why you may ask? Well, this is how my work goes. I go in and finish everything as soon as I can and then start looking at those charts. I look at them and I pray to them, ask the crypto gods not to make my portfolio bleed like there is no tomorrow. Count the gains I would have made if I sold some during the ATHs. Go to the washroom and cry my eyes out. Then back I go and stare at the charts. I lose track of time every day and end up leaving a lot later than the others.

    I get in some ways the crypto gods have listened to me, they did nothing to my cryptos but helped me with my fiat.

    I have to go now, it's time I use the washroom stall and cry my eyes out.

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    What are some overrated coins that you think investors should avoid?

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 08:31 AM PDT

    Whether it's a controversy, tech that doesn't meet expectations, poor tokenomics, or just that you think it won't stand the test of time, what are some projects that you think are overrated and should be avoided? I think for most people on this sub meme coins like Doge and Shib will come to mind, so for the sake of discussion let's try to avoid the low-hanging fruit and assume those are a given.

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    Serious discussion. Anyone else thinks this is peak adoption?

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 06:58 AM PDT

    I feel like we're not early anymore. I've been mining and trading since 2013 and the difference between then and now is night and day.

    Now the richest man in the world tweets about meme cryptos everyday. Companies have crypto on their balance sheet.

    Exchanges are legitimate and going public. You have savings account in crypto.

    In 2013, this is what you dreamt of when you thought about adoption. We reached that point. Now crypto is not niche or secret or emerging. Of course there's room to grow but we'll never reach 100% adoption. No tech has ever reached that. Even the internet is at something like 60% adoption all around the world.

    So what do you think?

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    Grayscale Adds Cardano to Its Digital Large Cap Fund

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 04:43 AM PDT

    The moment I open my eyes I pick up my phone and check my crypto ��

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 03:43 AM PDT

    It's extremely addicting and I love absolutely immersing myself in the crypto world and the various coins.

    Seeing the various coins I stake earning interest, no matter how small it may be is a great feeling.

    Have a great day all ✌️

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    Algorand Governance Referendum has passed and will begin on October 1st

    Posted: 02 Jul 2021 03:27 PM PDT

    Could the mods or anyone else enlighten me about the future of Moons?

    Posted: 03 Jul 2021 08:37 AM PDT

    I get the impression that Moons being an ERC20 token is just a stepping stone, and that there a big plans for the coin. I have some questions I think others are interested in as well:

    Will it eventually be on its own block chain or at least on something else with lower fees?

    Will there be a push to get it on notable exchanges?

    Will there be an expansion to other subreddits? This way the tipping economy could really thrive.

    Thankful for any input anyone might have on Moons' future.

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