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    Daily Discussion - June 18, 2019 (GMT+0)

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 05:13 PM PDT

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    Libra White Paper | Blockchain, Association, Reserve

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 01:52 AM PDT

    The true power of Bitcoin ��

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 01:18 AM PDT

    Sounds familiar

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 05:04 AM PDT

    Ripple announces official partnership with Moneygram!! Focused on xRapid and leveraging XRP for payments!

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 01:34 PM PDT

    If you bought Bitcoin...

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 09:06 PM PDT

    Fusion Foundation Grows Adoption with 7 Companies Acquiring Technology License

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 02:31 AM PDT

    Facebook coin terms and conditions. Link in comments.

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 01:39 AM PDT

    Quant Network partner with SIA, A Game Changer For Mass Blockchain Adoption by Financial Institutions

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 09:44 PM PDT

    Quant Network partner with SIA, A Game Changer For Mass Blockchain Adoption by Financial Institutions

    SIA, the leading European hi-tech company in the payment services and infrastructures sector, and Quant Network, a UK-based pioneering technology company, have signed a partnership agreement to explore blockchain interoperability and the creation of agnostic cross-platform applications and services for banks and financial institutions. Before discussing the partnership in more detail, first let's have a look at SIA for those not familiar.

    https://www.sia.eu/en/media-events/news-press-releases/sia-partners-with-quant-network-to-explore-innovative-solutions-in-blockchain-interoperability-for-banks-and-financial

    About SIA:

    SIA is European leader in the design, creation and management of technology infrastructures and services for Financial Institutions, Central Banks, Corporates and the Public Sector, in the areas of payments, cards, network services and capital markets. SIA Group provides its services in over 50 countries, and also operates through its subsidiaries in Austria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Germany, Greece, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Hungary and South Africa. The company also has branches in Belgium and the Netherlands, and representation offices in the UK and Poland.

    • In 2018, SIA managed 14 billion institutional services transactions, 7.2 billion card transactions, 3 billion payments, 51.7 billion financial transactions and carried 1,204 terabytes of data on the network.
    • SIA supported the launch of the new Samsung Pay payment system, and also Alipay and WeChat Pay payment service were activated. Furthermore, the offering of terminals has been enriched with the Android-based smartPOS line, making value-added services available to consumers and merchants.
    • In 2018, SIA confirmed its role as key technology partner to the London Stock Exchange Group and at the end of 2018, 44 trading venues operating in Europe and the United States were connected to SIA's "Financial Ring" which enables financial intermediaries to access, via a single high-speed, low-latency network infrastructure, the main international stock markets using date centers in Milan, Rome, London, Frankfurt, and New York.

    https://i.redd.it/9t34zynnn1531.png

    An Alternative to SWIFT

    The Eurosystem (compromises of the European Central Bank (ECB) and 19 National Central banks that are using the Euro such as the central banks of Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland etc.) operates the financial market infrastructure for the settlement of payments (TARGET2), TARGET Instant Payment Settlement (TIPS) and securities (TARGET2-Securities, or T2S). These platforms form the backbone of the European financial market.

    All European Financial institutions will connect to these services only via the Eurosystem Single Market Infrastructure Gateway (ESMIG). The single connectivity gateway to all Target services would provide a simpler and more efficient means to access the key market infrastructures as part of the Eurosystem's "2020 Vision" strategic plan for the evolution of market infrastructures.

    SIA, in partnership with Colt Technology Services, (who were acquired by Fidelity Investments — One of the largest asset managers in the world with $2.46 trillion), has won a 10 year tender commissioned by the European Central Bank for the provisioning of connectivity services allowing European central and commercial banks, central depositories, automated clearing houses and other payment service providers to connect directly to Eurosystem market infrastructures through a single access interface (Eurosystem Single Market Infrastructure Gateway — ESMIG).

    "We're particularly proud to have been chosen, in partnership with Colt, as one of the two Network Service Providers for Eurosystem market infrastructures. It represents a prestigious result for technology 'Made in Italy' and confirms SIA's significant ability to compete at international level, also strengthening our role as an innovative partner of central and commercial banks. This award for ESMIG is very important because, for the first time in Europe, all financial institutions have the chance to select the best technological solution in a framework of free competition with considerable benefits in terms of costs and efficiency, and contributes to strengthening cybersecurity and the resilience of strategically important systems", commented Nicola Cordone, SIA's Chief Executive Officer.

    Paula Cogan, VP of Enterprise and Capital Markets at Colt, comments: "The awarding of the ESMIG tender, seven years after the establishment of the partnership between Colt and SIA, represents a really important milestone for both companies. We are pleased to underpin the infrastructure evolution envisaged by the "Vision 2020" program by providing connectivity and messaging solutions for the fully managed T2S platform. Colt's network offers high levels of performance, scalability and guaranteed service levels which is why we are the chosen provider for over 650 financial institutions globally, including 18 of the 25 largest banks, more than 50 stock exchanges and 13 European central banks".

    https://i.redd.it/dcdeu0dpn1531.png

    https://www.sia.eu/en/media-events/news-press-releases/ecb-chooses-sia-and-colt-for-the-access-network-to-the-eurosystems-payments-securities-and-collateral-infrastructures

    This is hugely significant. Every European Financial institution will either connect via SIA, in partnership with Colt or via SWIFT (and in many cases they will have connectivity with both) in order to access the Eurosystem Single Market Infrastructure Gateway, granting access to all RTGS, Securities and Instant Payment transactions for Europe.

    SIA operates a private closed network and Overledger is being integrated into their private network via SIAChain to enable Blockchain interoperability for every connected European Financial Institution immediately, and all they need to do to start using Overledger is add 3 lines of code.

    SIAChain

    SIAChain is not a blockchain itself. It is a private infrastructure covering Europe consisting of 570 supernodes within SIAnet. SIAChain was created by SIA to develop, in a secure and protected manner, innovative Blockchain applications based on Distributed Ledger Technology.

    SIAchain makes a series of business applications available to communities of registered, approved members (be they financial institutions, corporates or public administration bodies) in which transparency, confidentiality and security are guaranteed as shared rules. As part of this agreement, SIA will be making Overledger available to all of its 570 Banks / Central Banks / Trading venues to enable Blockchain Interoperability.

    SIAnet is the leading Financial Network in Europe with more than 100 Tier 1 banks connected, 30 Stock Exchanges / Trading Venues, covering the entire trading process from pre-trading to post-trading.

    https://i.redd.it/b17h4tdqn1531.png

    Financial institutions don't send transactions to each other over the public Internet. They operate in heavily regulated environments and require secure, performant private networks with 100% uptime. SIA provide a private network dedicated to Financial institutions, utilising 10 GBps high speed network with extremely low latency of 4ms across huge distances stretching over 186,000 kilometres. This provides a secure, stable network with Guaranteed SLA's and 100% uptime to ensure transactions are received and in a timely manner, able to cope with huge volumes.

    https://i.redd.it/l2ke6qhrn1531.png

    Supernodes are hardware appliances deployed on SIA customers' premise (or, at request, hosted on SIA Private Cloud) that runs different blockchain nodes such as Corda, Hyperledger and permissioned versions of Ethereum in parallel, with multiple dApps, allowing each customer to join or create Business Networks, each one solving a particular use case. There are currently around 570 supernodes deployed each representing a SIA Customer — Banks, Central Banks, Stock Exchanges etc.

    https://i.redd.it/eomsl09sn1531.png

    SIA's main value is the ability to verify that all Supernodes run the same version of software for both DLT clients and subscribed dApps. Moreover, SIA certifies every single dApp / MAPP provided by Communities and deployed on the platform to minimize security and interoperability issues and operates auxiliary services needed by some DLT (Notaries, Orderers, Oracles, etc.)

    The partnership aims to integrate Quant Network's blockchain operating system Overledger into the SIAchaininfrastructure to enable interoperability, one of the biggest challenges and unmet needs faced by the financial industry to develop and implement blockchain and Distributed Ledger Technology based applications spanning different technologies.

    https://i.redd.it/22cu1vatn1531.png

    "Since the European launch of our private infrastructure SIAchain, we are at the forefront of innovation in blockchain technology with the aim of supporting financial markets with a high-performance and secure architecture and a clear governance model. We actively continue on our path of innovation and the achievement of a fully interoperable blockchain network is the foremost objective we want to reach with the collaboration of Quant Network and its disruptive vision on DLT", says Daniele Savarè, Innovation & Business Solutions Director, SIA.

    Banks need blockchain Interoperability

    Towards the end of 2017 SIA announced a Partnership with R3 a banking consortium utilising their Corda platform. Members of the consortium consist of banks such as Bank of America, Barclays, BBVA, BNP Paribas, Citi, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, ING, Intesa Sanpaolo, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, Mizuho Bank, National Australia Bank, Royal Bank of Canada, Royal Bank of Scotland, Scotiabank, Société Générale, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, Toronto-Dominion Bank, U.S. Bancorp, UBS, UniCredit and Wells Fargo

    There are many other blockchains been utilised with Banks, such as JP Morgan's Quorum which is a permissioned variant of Ethereum. JP Morgan's Coin would require interoperability with other blockchains being used by Banks such as Corda and Hyperledger.

    Others include Fnality (previously known as Utility Settlement Coin) who are building tokenized versions of five major fiat currencies in partnership with Clearmatics who are utilising a private version of Ethereum. Banks involved were UBS, Banco Santander, Bank of New York Mellon, State Street, Credit Suisse, Barclays, HSBC Holdings and Deutsche Bank AG.

    As well as We.Trade consortium utilising Hyperledger Fabric and is currently in live production consisting of banks such as Deutsche Bank, HSBC, KBC, Natixis, Nordea, Rabobank, Santander, Societe Generale and UniCredit

    Overledger bringing blockchain interoperability immediately to all 570 Banks / Trading partners

    The really important thing to understand with this partnership is that SIA will be integrating Overledger into SIAChain. They already have built the network, deployed supernodes at all their customers sites and already have loads of banks using various blockchain applications. With this partnership they now can utilise Overledger to benefit from blockchain interoperability with just 3 lines of code and less than 8 minutes.

    Companies such as Ripple, Stellar etc have to take years rolling out their infrastructure / software to individually connect each bank. By SIA Integrating Overledger into SIAChain, all 570 banks / trading partners have access to Overledger instantly. It's also a closed private network so its not like they can just integrate other solutions unless they have been integrated into SIAChain.

    The key is SIAnet and SIAChain is an existing financial infrastructure that already is used and interconnects 570 banks and financial institutions. The access and adoption is already there, all the banks are already connected and using the network. Difference is now, it has Overledger.

    It would have taken us 10+ years to onboard 570 banks one by one and build the infrastructure. This is where Ripple, Stellar (IBM) are stuck and adoption will take many years to individually connect each bank. We already have all of them connected now.

    Spunta Banca

    SIAchain was selected for the operational testing of the "Spunta Banca" project — coordinated by ABI Lab, the research and innovation center promoted by the Italian Banking Association — based on blockchain technology that involved 18 Italian banks performing a proof of concept with excellent results. This has now progressed to technical tests with 200 banks and 200 million data items for a year before going into production.

    https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/78173/abi-lab-updates-on-progress-of-italian-dlt-project-spunta

    Just a couple of days ago an update of the Agreement for the maintenance of reciprocal accounts between banks with regard to the interbank check was approved, this allows the development of the check process using Distributed ledger technology (DLT), starting from 1st March 2020. It is therefore a blockchain for banks operating in Italy.

    https://i.redd.it/euhvdfnun1531.png

    FINSEC Project funded by Horizon 2020

    FINSEC, (Integrated Framework for Predictive and Collaborative Security of Financial Infrastructures), is a flagship project which will develop, demonstrate and bring to market an integrated, intelligent, collaborative and predictive approach to the security of critical infrastructures in the financial sector. FINSEC will provide a blueprint for the next generation security systems for the critical infrastructures of the financial sector.

    https://i.redd.it/y5wm29wao1531.png

    The FINSEC project will provide tools for stakeholders' collaboration in the financial supply chain to leverage the results of the previous tasks, while supportin gassets modelling and interrelationships for financial services involving multiple participants, such as SWIFT network interactions.

    The blockchain will be established and will operate in a fully decentralized manner,i.e. it will not be under the control of any administrative entity. Nevertheless, each participating entity (e.g., a bank or another financial institution) will interface to the blockchain infrastructure through a ledger client application, which shall make use of a blockchain API enabling the execution of the chain code. The entire data sharing process will be driven by a data model: the latter will specify the subset of security information that will be shared by each blockchain participant

    Working with the Central Bank of Italy

    So what we've done is instead of just announcing one client and one thing, we're announcing that we're working with SIA. So, SIA is leading European payment infrastructure. And what we're doing with SIA is interconnecting blockchain networks with SIA, and doing settlements, which are central bank settlements, with the central bank in Italy. So what Overledger is doing is we're actually bringing blockchain and interoperability to all of SIA's clients, which are 580 banks. So, Overledger could be rolled out to all these institutions, financial services, banks, at scale, and have interoperability to get the benefits of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cNmGrLPoTo&t=7s

    Game Changer for Quant Network and for Blockchain Mass Adoption by Financial Institutions

    This is a game changer for Quant, SIA are integrating Overledger into the leading financial private network in Europe enabling blockchain interoperability to all of its 570 Banks, Central Banks, Stock Exchanges, Trading venues etc immediately. Not having to spend years rolling our infrastructure / software, they can all benefit today.

    This number will only increase with the recent news that SIA, in partnership with Colt Technology Services, has won a 10 year tender commissioned by the European Central Bank for the provisioning of connectivity services allowing European central and commercial banks, central depositories, automated clearing houses and other payment service providers to connect directly to Eurosystem market infrastructures through a single access interface (Eurosystem Single Market Infrastructure Gateway — ESMIG).

    To find out more about Quant Network and Overledger please see the links below.

    Part One — Blockchain Fundamentals

    Part Two — The Layers Of Overledger

    Part Three — TrustTag and the Tokenisation of data

    Part Four — Features Overledger provides to MAPPs

    Part Five — Creating the Standards for Interoperability

    Part Six — The Team behind Overledger and Partners

    Part Seven — The QNT Token

    Part Eight — Enabling Enterprise Mass Adoption

    Quant Network — Enabling Mass Adoption of Blockchain at a Rapid Pace

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    Wall street are a bunch of hypocrites. Many talk about how Bitcoin and crypto in general is a bubble. That they are worthless digital coins, but when a publicly traded company announces a partnership with a cryptocurrency (Moneygram), or the creation of a coin (Facebook), their stock soars. ����

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 02:29 PM PDT

    Court orders Craig Wright to prove he's Satoshi Nakamoto, today!

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 08:42 AM PDT

    This talk by Andreas Antonopoulos blew my mind.

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 09:18 AM PDT

    https://youtu.be/5ca70mCCf2M

    I searched before posting. This video is several years old, but every time it is posted, mostly on other subreddits, it gets a lukewarm response.

    Andreas Antonopoulos draws some relevant analogies between the automobile and horses, electricity and gas(lighting), high speed internet and dial-up modems, and blockchain/bitcoin (or insert your decentralized trustless ledger of choice here) and current banking system. Every one of those innovations was ridiculed by the legacy technology before it, even though history books do not teach that part.

    The best part is around the 47 minute part where he speculates a few innovations that will not be possible until the banking infrastructure inverts.

    I don't usually share bitcoin stuff with friends and family because it comes across as proselytizing, but this one blew my mind because it shows how humans have responded to similar disruptors in the past and explains current attitudes. If you don't want to share on social media, I get it.

    But it is important to expand our minds past viewing cryptocurrency as an investment on top of a legacy payment system. Every one of us here knows this. The hard part is getting out of the mindset every one around us is in, without coming across as a foaming-at-the-mouth-preacher. This video accomplishes that nicely. Once the inversion happens is when it will really get interesting. Cheers everyone.

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    Facebook is not here to help the little people

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 02:26 AM PDT

    Facebook is here to extort you for your data and keep you dumb and broke. Crypto open source chain is here to transfer atleast 30% of global wealth to the unfortunate.

    Libra is here to make sure that transfer doesnt happen

    Why do they need KYC for transactions and keep my data on their blockchain? 0 fees, Well of course there arent any fees bc your selling my fucking data to every goddamn company thus leading to Ai bots to feed me marketing tactics to negate my mind at any point in time I use my phone to buy pointless ass shit that doesnt last.

    They make ads ridiculing you if you don't use their social networks. They create a social norm that generates a new norm thats neither good nor terrible. Creating this norm and damn near monopolistic attitude toward your own data is forcing your hand and not providing you a choice. Which is just flat out wrong but that is where the world is going with tech it seems

    They own your social data to categorize you,

    They are attempting to own your financial data in order to own you.

    HELL they're even using PBFT where their code is copy pasta from other projects. (BFT has been around for a long time, it is the fastest for transactions. My personal favorite is aBFT)

    In the end their project may succeed because the masses truly don't care and that is perfectly fine. Gotta love the crypto market and how it will turn out for the next half year. The future is lack of choice.

    https://libra.org/en-US/white-paper/

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    Ever wonder how Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies) actually work?

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 03:14 PM PDT

    Warsaw-based Alior will reportedly use the Ethereum public blockchain to build a system to let customers check the authenticity of documents they receive from the bank.

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 09:43 PM PDT

    Warning, IOST providing false information about their team

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 07:43 AM PDT

    So last week I got banned from the IOST sub because I found out their supposedly 40/50+ member development team isn't there anymore as it used to be, the page disappeared from their website IOST.io (it's unknown to me when exactly that happened).

    Also, older information mentioned team members who now changed their first names on LinkedIn, and much worse: three of them don't even mention IOST in their past working experience at all!

    Be careful people, because these team members have been advertised as Microsoft and Uber employees, but if you check their LinkedIn page one of them seems to have been an Microsoft intern and the other one worked on a not so interesting Uber project, not the top curriculum vitae's you would expect, imo.

    As of now, the website still mentions 50+ team members, where is the proof? The only team members I found are about 5 persons, two of them have another company in China they run as well.

    Edit: being heavily downvoted by IOST fanboys(?), please provide evidence of the 50+ actual team members including their LinkedIn and I will delete this post.

    Edit 2: just amazing how many downvotes AND upvotes this post gets, without anyone of the IOST community giving a content-related answer.

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    XRP Game Changer: Ripple to invest up to $50 million in MoneyGram in strategic partnership

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 06:47 PM PDT

    LTO Network - Q1 - Q2 2019 Report || How is the project doing?

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 03:26 AM PDT

    LTO Network - Q1 - Q2 2019 Report || How is the project doing?

    https://i.redd.it/c3uvmbknh3531.png

    https://blog.lto.network/report-q1-q2-2019-lto-network/

    The highlights on LTO:

    • Became top-20 most used blockchain with over 20,000 daily transactions
    • Onboarded software providers with over 1M active users
    • Grew the network to over 80 nodes and 1900 token holders
    • Hosted training sessions for BCG, Axveco, and Novum
    • Integrated with Binance Chain and DEX
    • Spoke at events with CMS, IBM, TechData
    • Became a Member of the ISO Committee (more on that later)

    Hmmm, that last one is especially interesting I think, but little information shared about that still. Maybe on the 20th?? during the LTO event. For those in Amsterdam, feel free to join:

    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/lto-network-blockexpo-afterparty-tickets-61931651236

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    Here's what's behind the Ripple/MoneyGram "partnership"

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 03:05 PM PDT

    It's not a partnership, they bought $30M of Moneygram. How? By selling XRP.

    http://fortune.com/2019/06/17/ripple-moneygram-xrp/

    To me it looks like a desperate move to generate buzz

    If you care to know:

    Under the terms of the deal, Ripple will pay $4.10 cents a share to acquire an 8% to 10% stake in MoneyGram. This translates into a $30 million investment, and also gives MoneyGram the option for another $20 million cash infusion in the next two years.

    Ripple's purchase of newly-issued shares of MoneyGram is a significant premium on MoneyGram's recent market price, which has languished around $1.50

    Paying $4.10 something worth $1.50 in exchange of publicity.

    Ripple's investment comes a year after MoneyGram's rival Western Unionended a trial experiment with XRapid, saying the XRP transfer service had not produced any significant savings. Ripple has also engaged in numerous pilot projects with banks in the past three years, but none of these has resulted in a breakout moment for XRP.

    I think you can see the plot now.

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    ERC-1155: The Final Token Standard on Ethereum

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 09:54 AM PDT

    Institutional interest is at an all-time high | Crypto Briefing

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 12:56 PM PDT

    Can Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency Suffer a '34% Attack?'

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 03:36 AM PDT

    Zilliqa Partners with Xfers

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 03:36 AM PDT

    WSJ: Bitcoin Tops $9,000 as Crypto Rally Trounces Stocks, Bonds, Gold, and Oil

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 08:59 AM PDT

    STEX and Graviex added to WHAT TO MINE opening alt exposure - EGEM took top spot

    Posted: 18 Jun 2019 02:56 AM PDT

    STEX and Graviex added to WHAT TO MINE opening alt exposure - EGEM took top spot

    Whattomine added STEX and GRAVIEX exchanges which helped a bunch of alts get noticed. Full disclosure I am on the dev team for EGEM. This may have some of your favorites appearing for the first time too!

    https://i.redd.it/skk4vrzl73531.png

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    Andreas Antonopoulos believes banks are about to 'lose a whole generation of customers'

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 05:06 AM PDT

    WARNING: Never use Coinegg

    Posted: 17 Jun 2019 03:47 PM PDT

    Coinegg Exchange is a scam, we need to ask Coinmarketcap to remove them from the site. Why do I say this? Because Elastos is $3.85 on most exchanges, but it's $4.75 on Coinegg. If you move your Elastos to Coinegg, you cannot withdraw. Another coin I follow, VeriCoin is listed on Coinegg for 7 cents, it trades for 12 cents everywhere else and you cannot withdraw VeriCoin from Coinegg.

    At the end of the day, the two coins I follow most which are completely unrelated to each other each have their own price discrepancies and withdrawal issues. So, what other coins are effected by this? Probably MANY more. DO NOT use Coinegg unless you want to be scammed. I don't trade there, but I felt necessary to make this post to protect others and to hopefully help remove it from Coinmarketcap.com because it leads to the prices shown to be wrong since coinegg is either artificially inflating or artificially deflating a coin prices.

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