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    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 09:35 AM PST

    This tweet aged well

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 12:18 PM PST

    Very respectable apology from Ryan Charles and the team at Yours/Moneybutton

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 06:40 PM PST

    BitPanda exchanges announces full support of the ABC chain as the official BCH ticker

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 07:02 PM PST

    Visualizing the sustained throughput on the SV network during stress tests

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 09:13 PM PST

    Coinex just opened up deposit for BCH & BSV, seems you can also use it to split coins!!

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 10:26 PM PST

    BCHSV hits $42 on HitBTC exchange losing half it's value in a single day

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 10:26 PM PST

    @MatterBCH and @YoursOrg leave BCH, we join BCH. Announcing https://honest.cash . The first honest social media network built on #BCH based on principles: * uncensored content * you earn if you create and upvote content * open-source code * privacy Preregistrations open!

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 07:11 PM PST

    "In order to reflect the current market, we have merged our Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCHABC) listings. We have observed that a majority of exchanges are using the Bitcoin Cash (BCH) to refer to the Bitcoin Cash ABC implementation." - coinmarketcap.com

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 06:33 PM PST

    Just saw a 8800 BSV sell order on Bittrex, get the popcorn ready

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 07:52 PM PST

    Cobra is at it again, turning his coat. After supporting SV for weeks he instantly turns tail and tries to get back in favour to cause more problems. Interesting lesson

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 04:43 PM PST

    Liquid exchange announces full support of the ABC chain as the official BCH ticker

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 07:05 PM PST

    Calvin Ayre: "Just stopped in an visited the nChain team. They are all in good spirits as things are unfolding exactly as they had planned." Comedy in the replies.

    Posted: 20 Nov 2018 12:37 AM PST

    By the end of the week, SV looks like it's going to be worth less than Bitcoin Gold...

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 11:02 PM PST

    The SV price is plummeting rapidly. Now less than USD $60. At the current rate of decline, it's going to be worth less than Bitcoin Gold by the end of the week? Yikes!

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    “One of the most pathetic—and dangerous—signs of our times is the growing number of individuals and groups who believe that no one can possibly disagree with them for any honest reason.”

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 10:40 AM PST

    Confessions of a Former Craig Defender

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 07:54 PM PST

    Just added this as a reply to a subthread, but since it may get buried there, thought I'd create a new post, not because I imagine everyone cares much about my opinion, but because it might be a useful snapshot of my own thought process wrt to the Craig and nChain issue for anyone out there who may still be on the fence:

    While I was never a strong Craig/nChain partisan, I've been a Craig defender, or, at least, anti-anti-Craig (that is, claiming he has his problems but may have some value as well) for a while, and think that this latest debacle is probably the last straw for me as well.

    I'm still not sure Craig is a totally useless conman, but I think the negatives of having him in the community, to the extent we have any say over it, are definitely outweighing the positives at this point.

    My rough estimation of the positives as I see them:

    1. I still think it's possible he was part of team Satoshi or at least involved very early on. He seems to have some insights others don't wrt to the pre-history of the bitcoin idea.
    2. I still like his focus on business adoption, professionalization of the industry, and support of companies with very practical uses outside the immediate circle of crypto fans (Handcash, Moneybutton; still don't get Centbee).
    3. I like his focus on economics and incentive issues in addition to technical issues, which is why, I think, people I respect, like Daniel Krawisz, still respect him.
    4. Some people I respect, albeit admittedly seemingly from the somewhat less technical side seem to have gained valuable insight about bitcoin from him. I don't think he's a total buffoon in terms of overall understanding even if his technical knowledge isn't there. It seems like he's had some unique insights of his own, like the idea of Bitcoin as a small-world network.
    5. I don't like IP, but figured I'd rather have a BCH-friendly corporation holding crypto patents than Bank of America. I like that Coingeek, unlike Bitmain, was all-in on BCH.

    ...And the negatives:

    1. Whether or not he was part of team Satoshi, there's definite evidence of him being dishonest and sneaky in the past wrt to provable things like backdated blogposts and quite possibly much else. Whether or not he's lying about the big question, he's clearly not entirely trustworthy. My estimate of the likelihood of him being involved in Satoshi have also gone down as his confident declarations have repeatedly failed to come true. And like Vitalik said, at this point, finding out he was Satoshi would do more to hurt my opinion of Satoshi than improve my opinion of Craig.
    2. He doesn't just practice defensive patenting, he promiscuously threatens legal action and jail time against anyone who defies him; fortunately, there's...
    3. He repeatedly promises big and fails to deliver or, at best, greatly underwhelms in terms of delivery. Whether intentional or just part of his manipulator DNA, this clearly functions, like the Satoshi claims, to keep people in a state of tantalized anticipation. By the time some realize his old promises have failed to come true, he's got new ones, and lurking behind it all the tantalizing idea he'll one day provide more definitive proof/backstory on the Satoshi thing.
    4. Most of those who do have a lot of technical knowledge are, at best, unimpressed with any actual code he or his team produces.

    The above might possibly not outweigh the pros if it weren't for 5:

    His arrogant, divisive personality that created a confidence-destroying, value-destroying fork that seemed more calculated to allow him to take control than any genuine, major, fundamental difference in philosophy he could clearly explain. If it weren't for that I think he could have all the other negatives and maybe still play a valuable, if eccentric and maybe more marginal role in the community akin to someone like McAfee--not 100% above board or sane, but ultimately more an asset than a liability.

    He may claim it should be about his ideas, we don't have to like him, etc. and I've kind of thought to myself for a while that it's possible both to be Satoshi or part of Satoshi and an arrogant asshole, or to be both an arrogant asshole and yet also a valuable contributor, but at the end of the day he keeps emphasizing business, and like Roger says, he's just incapable of acting professional. Imagine a Jeff Bezos or Steve Jobs acting the way he does in public. They would be booted from their leadership roles even if they still had great ideas. It would be one thing, maybe if he were an asshole behind the scenes to his employees and let Jimmy do all the talking, but he doesn't: he puts himself front and center in a way that is harmful to the credibility of BCH and crypto in general. For all Craig's complaints about Bitcoin needing to grow up, Bitmain, ABC, and especially Unlimited, though not above some taunting of their own, nevertheless adopted and presented a much more careful, professional approach than Craig ever did. Relevant tweet.

    So, imo, probably the best thing to do is just ignore him and his antics as much as possible, while also being willing to learn from him both in terms of our own (including myself here) vulnerability to such tactics, and in terms of those aspects I still think he was right to emphasize such as Bitcoin being for the world and not just a small circle of libertarians and nerds, Bitcoin needing to be business and, to some degree, maybe even regulator-friendly, needing to professionalize and offer clean, easy UI for the general public built on a stable foundation, etc.

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    BitPay working now for ABC

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 03:35 PM PST

    Edit BitPay Wallet is up sorry for the confusion

    Edit again smh: when I say ABC I mean ABC Chain(BCH)

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    BCH ABC listings become BCH again on coinmarketcap.com (this is why the price appeared to plummet so quickly today)

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 08:51 PM PST

    Satoshi Dice goes BCH (ABC)

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 12:23 PM PST

    As pr title.
    Just got an email from their support stating that BCH (ABC) is their choice and that they don't expect to support BSV going forward.

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    Has anyone here ever actually read CSW's patents? I just did and had a good LOL.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 03:03 PM PST

    Sorry craig, but your patent for using a diffie hellman key exchange to send a private key isn't any more enforceable than a patent on using SSL to send emails.

    You can't just take someone else's invention, get a patent for using that invention on bitcoin, and expect it to be an enforceable patent. That is every single one of Craig's patents right there.

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    BitGo announces support for the ABC chain as official BCH ticker

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 06:58 PM PST

    Today's 64 MB SV block took 40 minutes to propagate to many nodes... what does this mean for scaling?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 05:57 PM PST

    Bitcoin SV block #557335, mined just a couple of hours ago, was massive -- clocking in at 63999195 bytes and containing around 334000 transactions. I just want to start off by saying congrats to SV team for being brave enough to do this on mainnet.

    Conspicuously, the 64 MB block took about 40 minutes to appear on https://cash.coin.dance/ , and I noticed it was missing from some other SV nodes for a similar time. By the end of this 40 minutes, there had been already three more blocks mined on top of the 64 MB block.

    It appears that during this time, no other competing blocks appeared, so I suspect that the SV team had pointed all other miner pools away from SV during that time, in order to prevent orphaning. Indeed we saw a massive drop in Bitcoin SV hashrate today, prior to the test.

    I want to ask, what does such a huge propagation delay mean for scaling bitcoin? Once the networks stabilize and we are all back to normal, we will have a diverse set of mining pools and obviously we can't expect other pools to turn off mining whenever a big block comes out. We can expect orphaning problems, selfish mining problems, etc...

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    It appears the BSV chain is currently being re-orged

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 09:05 AM PST

    Ryan, I accept your apology, but a clarification is in order

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 11:13 PM PST

    Dear Ryan, I understand that tensions have been high. I'm human and I get angry too and we all make mistakes when we are angry. So I fully accept your apology and thank you for restoring my account and my yours content.

    I do believe that something needs clarification.

    In your apology message, you wrote:

    On Saturday, I received a huge volume of negative messages from users on Reddit and Twitter. Although I have developed a strong tolerance for online negativity, these messages were more than I could handle, and I lost control. I banned Robert Miller, jessquit, Kain_niaK, and freetrader from Yours.org based on these messages and deleted their content.

    In point of fact, I have never sent you any "messages." I have never emailed you, I've never PMed you, etc. I do not appreciate the implication that I harassed you because it is categorically untrue. I don't even have a Twitter account.

    To the best of my recollection, I have never once said anything bad about you, or Yours, or Money Button, with the following exceptions.

    • I believe that one time I questioned your sources of funding

    • After you banned me and deleted my content, I went into a telegram chat and made one comment about your personal appearance

    Ryan, I'm not sure what "huge volume of negative messages" you may have received that you believe came from me, but I assure you, I didn't send them and I would appreciate it if you cleaned that up. And if someone is somehow impersonating me, I'd like to know what's going on.

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    Bitcoin Cash is Finally Free of “Faketoshi”! Great Days Lie Ahead.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 09:31 AM PST

    The Beginning of The End of Store of Value Swindle

    Posted: 19 Nov 2018 10:06 PM PST
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