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    BTC Tx flippening! BCH network processed 687,000 transactions today with median fees of one fifth of a penny. That's about 200,000 more than BTC has ever processed.

    BTC Tx flippening! BCH network processed 687,000 transactions today with median fees of one fifth of a penny. That's about 200,000 more than BTC has ever processed.


    Tx flippening! BCH network processed 687,000 transactions today with median fees of one fifth of a penny. That's about 200,000 more than BTC has ever processed.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 07:57 PM PDT

    700,000+ BCH transactions today. Fireworks to celebrate Bitcoin Independence Day

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 08:43 PM PDT

    Independence from stifling Blockstream developer centralization and hostile takeover of BTC. This day will be remembered in Bitcoin history forever

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    Bitcoin Cash is the most spent cryptocurrency at the worlds first Crypto Airport

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 06:46 PM PDT

    The essence of DYOR is asking good questions. But people who ask good questions eventually get banned from rBitcoin. So those that remain in rBitcoin are lazy researchers.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 09:13 PM PDT

    Nothing wrong with hearing the opinions of lazy researchers, but take it with the appropriate amount of salt.

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    Btc.com:"BCH is positioning itself as a challenger to financial giants such as VISA and PayPal."

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 06:05 PM PDT

    UK Coinbase users can now invest in Bitcoin with their pounds

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 10:28 PM PDT

    BCH seems to be undergoing a stress test, so i decided to send another 2300 transactions for just $6. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 12:55 PM PDT

    /r/bitcoin happy about troll ripping down BCH flyers

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 06:55 PM PDT

    HandCash will be a game changing Bitcoin wallet not due to its NFC functionality, but because of the robust social networking features... starting with user handles.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 08:36 PM PDT

    Post yours and I'll send you some BCH!

    $CryptoHiRoller

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    Memory into perspective...

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 09:57 PM PDT

    Only a few hours left to help the poker community understand that Bitcoin Cash satoshis are real money (Twitter Poll)

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 11:54 PM PDT

    Scientific hard-facts and evidence that Bitcoin (Cash) is in every way cheaper, faster, more popular and superior to BCore's BTC "Bitcoin". You can't argue facts.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 08:09 PM PDT

    PSA If you have a Ledger Nano (not S) you need to transfer your coins off it before Google (soon) withdraw support for the only app/interface for accessing your coins..

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 01:31 PM PDT

    TL/DR Google are about to withdraw support for the only interface that exists for this device and Ledger have no plans on providing one. Their advice was "oh we told people about this on social media.. would you like to upgrade to a Nano S?"

    I couple of years ago I bought a Ledger Nano (not S) which is just a usb thing with no power or screen and was only usable for storing bitcoin. Subsequently I got a Nano S cos I wanted to store ETH as well. Recently I upgraded the firmware on this and moved over to their new Ledger Live app.

    I wanted to hook up my old Nano to this as well but it didn't work so I submitted a support query and was told "yeah we don't support that anymore oh and by the way the Chrome app that is the only existing interface is going to be deleted soon so would you like to upgrade to a Nano S? We told everyone about this on social media."

    WTF!! Essentially people who bought one of these, put some bitcoin on it and forgot about it are going to be in for a nasty surprise when they eventually come back and try to use it... If you have the 24 words you can still recover the private key but still - they could have knocked up a native app for this..

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    Why I choose Bitcoin Cash over Bitcoin

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 07:27 AM PDT

    A few days ago I posted my doubts and criticism about BTC vs BCH, but now I have made my mind up after a lenghty research yesterday and today, I have chosen BCH.

    Disclaimer: I have already owned BCH before that.

    So I was already on board BCH, but I had my doubts about it, and certainly the noise the other side makes, it made me doubt myself whether I made the best choice or not. After all it's about money, and the first thing that comes into a person's mind is that it worries about losing it. So if BCH would have been inferior to BTC then there would have been a strong chance of losing that money, through the price doing down like with the other fake coins Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond, etc...

    Because from an investment standpoint I shouldn't care about sides, I just want the one that has a better future and more potential in it. So if I would have found out that BTC is better I would have sold my BCH for BTC obviously, I would have no sentimental attachment to either of them, I just want to be on the right side. Eventually hedge, but hedging is like the game of uncertain people, and there is no uncertainty here, all the evidence shows one side to be much better than the other. It's not even like 70-30, it's more like 99-1.

    Now I did a lenghty research, read all the comments on my posts, and compared them to the claim BTC makes on their websites and influential BTC people have stated, asked questions, used logic, and it's now objectively clear to me that BCH is the right side to be on.

       

    FEES

    I was already doubtful about BTC, that is why I have switched to BCH about a year ago, I saw their shady activities, but the final nail in the coffin was probably the massive FEE problem, that started last November and ended in February. That made me totally dislike BTC.

    However now that the fees are normal in BTC, I had a doubt in my mind that what if they are right? What if the fee spike was just a coordinated attack on BTC, and now that it's over, BTC is just as good as BCH.

    I mean if the fees are normal now, and about the same last I looked (maybe BTC is like 20% more expensive but still low like 60 cents), it gives some credibility back to BTC.

    There are theories that the coordinated attack was a conspiracy against BTC, but then again BTC has it's own conspiracies too, so why not just ignore the conspiracy theories and look at the facts.

    The fact is that it doesn't matter what it was, the mere fact that it happened, and it crippled the network for 4 months, shows that BTC has serious flaws. And it can happen again. So it doesn't matter who did it, it happened, and the network was crippled.

    Now if a network can be crippled like that, and if you want this network to host a global payment system, then we will have huge problems.

    BCH can defend against such attack much more effectively because it costs more to fill up a 32MB block than a 1MB block, 32x harder. Plus a 32MB block is so small that anyone can handle that right now, even if a 4 month period attack would happen against BCH, and it would be 32x more costly, so it would be harder to pull off.

    However if a bigger budgeted attacker would attack again BTC with a 32x budget, then it would cripple BTC for 10 YEARS!!! That would literally make Bitcoin literally die.

       

    Non Mining Nodes

    One aspect that the BTC people say is that non miner "full nodes" are sacrosanct, and that we need them to keep miners in check, but I haven't heard any coherent answers as to why.

    I have read the whitepaper twice, once today and once yesterday, and it states there clearly what the real truth is. You should definitely download and archive the whitepaper because some people tried to rewrite it, Orwellian style, so grab the original one here:

    https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/whitepaper

    [Download it and save it on your own computer SHA256: b1674191a88ec5cdd733e4240a81803105dc412d6c6708d53ab94fc248f4f553, these Orwellian trolls might try to gaslight you eventually and rewrite the past!]

    The whitepaper mentions 3 times that:

    The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes.

    Subsequently:

    The proof-of-work also solves the problem of determining representation in majority decision making. If the majority were based on one-IP-address-one-vote, it could be subverted by anyone able to allocate many IPs. Proof-of-work is essentially one-CPU-one-vote. The majority decision is represented by the longest chain, which has the greatest proof-of-work effort invested in it. If a majority of CPU power is controlled by honest nodes, the honest chain will grow the fastest and outpace any competing chains.

    This is word for word how the whitepaper says it. So this alone disproves the full node myth, it's complete nonsense. The miners have total control, and the nodes don't matter. Satoshi designed a 1 CPU 1 vote system, where every node is a miner node. He could not forecast large farm ASIC miners, but then again that isn't resolved by just running non miner nodes.

    Furthermore the full node system doesn't have any collective benefit only individual one, which we will get into next, and it might even be a drag:

    Instead of going from A->D, you have to go to A->B->C->D with a full node system, adding extra inefficiency and latency. Keep in mind, this is not a medieval pidgeon relay messaging system, the information travels at the speed of light, so there is no need for extra relays, in fact adding extra relays just creates extra latency.

    You eventually have to communicate with a miner, so what is the point in having extra "bus stops" along the way? It's just a waste of resources.

    We do need many miners to secure the network, and instead of wasting resources on non-mining nodes, they should just spend that on mining if they really want decentralization.

       

    SPV Wallets

    Another claim that they make is that SPV wallets are insecure. Which is somewhat true, but out of perspective. For general users SPV wallets are totally fine. And I don't think SPV security is lower than what anyone except a billionaire who keeps all his coins in 1 address (very stupid) would need.

    This explained well in the whitepaper in the page 5/ paragraph 8 "Simplified Payment Verification" section. The SPV is probabilistically secure, because it fetches blocks that are already agreed upon, so unless a big conspiracy is taking place, miners rewriting the chain, this gives people a probabilistic security.

    Most SPV wallets are well implemented so they use the best tools to keep your coin history reasonably accurate, so they fetch data from multiple random servers and compare against it. Certainly Electrum/Electron Cash does this well.

    One thing I might add is that it's good to use a VPN too with SPV wallets, in case your are personally targeted by a criminal, so your IP address is randomized too for extra security, so you won't download honeypot blocks that are specifically targeting your IP.

    But other than that SPV is just reasonably secure, and by that I mean that it's probably below 0.1% that your coin history can be deceitful, and even then if you wait for 10-15 confirmations and shuffle your VPN IP address around enough times, you can be absolutely sure that the history is accurate.

    So their fear is overblown and they are just fearmongering on this, the same way people fearmonger about asteroid impact or alien invasion, it's just not reasonable.

       

    Lightning Network

    Now as you can see already that a lot of these claims have been utterly debunked, and they don't have coherent arguments to address the rebuttals, in fact in most cases they resort to ad hominems and insults (which I have experienced, just for asking questions). But the coup de grace happens when you realize how inefficient LN is. And for that here are some references, it's mostly technical:

    And perhaps it's explained in more simpler terms in youtube videos but the point is that there is real scientific proof that the LN will have awful consequences for the decentralization of BTC, and it inserts and unnecessary middleman into the mix that is a massive point of failure.

    It essentially creates a KYC regulated bank network on top of a settlement layer, and the governments around the world will have total control over that. Well the LN nodes are essentially money transmitters because they directly facilitate the transfer of money, so AML/KYC/Tax reporting/Surveillance will happen by default on these nodes. And given that LN can't be a decentralized system but a hub & spoke system, due to the need to keep your wallet online at all times, it will literally become a 3rd party custodian based banking system, literally.

    So all of the essence of Bitcoin [word for word quote from the whitepaper]:

    A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.

    Will literally cease to exist, and it reverts BTC back into a government regulated banking system, literally.

       


       

    There are other arguments too, but these are the main ones, and researching them thoroughly and understanding the issues made me lose all my doubts about Bitcoin Cash and all my faith in Bitcoin.

    It can't be any more clear to me now that Bitcoin Cash is the true version of Bitcoin, the real vision of Satoshi and the genuine implementation of it, with all the technical genius-ity that Satoshi had laid out in the whitepaper which is still relevant.

    Satoshi laid out everything in the whitepaper, and all of it is implemented geniusly in Bitcoin Cash except for paragraph 7 on page 4 "Reclaiming Disk Space" which talks about block pruning, I am not sure if this is Xthin Blocks or Compact Blocks or Thin Blocks (please explain in the comment section), otherwise it should be implemented, it would be a much better way for scaling than LN.

    But other than that BCH is technically superior. Now I don't know whether better things win in politics, but in engineering, if your design is shitty, it will inevitably fall apart. You can't have a skyscraper built on quicksand, it's inevitable disaster.

    So look, BCH is obviously risky, it has less users, less merchants; but because it has a solid foundation and probably the 3rd biggest community after ethereum, it has maaaaaaaaaaaaassive opportunity in it to become the best cryptocurrency (because ethereum has the same or worse issues than BTC).

    There is no question now whether BCH is better, the only question now is, how long will it take for people to realize this.

     

    So I choose to stay with BCH, and now I am 101% supportive of it! Long Live Bitcoin Cash!!

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    Had to go back and watch this. It's hilarious.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 12:51 PM PDT

    Bitpay COO Believes Bitcoin is "Working" as Means of Payment

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 10:47 PM PDT

    Watching the stress test in action is amazing to see.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 09:32 AM PDT

    @CobraBitcoin: "Happy independence day to my UASF friends, and my Bitcoin Cash friends. Very powerful day, let’s try to celebrate without throwing shit at one another!"

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 11:27 AM PDT

    The first Bitcoin Cash meeting in Almaty.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 11:54 PM PDT

    The BCH community in Venezuela is growing really fast! You won't hear about this in the mainstream media but on the background in the hearts and minds of regular people the movement is growing worldwide. It's small but it might just explode one day. (in a good way)

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 09:14 AM PDT

    Happy Fork Day!!!!

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 02:02 PM PDT

    Cashing out BTC profits

    Posted: 02 Aug 2018 01:02 AM PDT

    Hi,

    so I have been selling BTC for cash for quite some time now. I'm based in the UK and I have been buying my BTC via cash in the mail and selling it in person.

    I'm now at the point where I have gathered a large some of cash that I would like to deposit into my bank.

    My question is:

    1.) Do I tell the bank I've been selling BTC and this is where it's come from?

    2.) If I did tell them that it's come from selling BTC are they going to allow me to deposit it?

    3.) Will I have to show them all of my transaction history to prove where it has come from?

    4.) If I do deposit the money successfully at what point do I need to pay tax on my earnings?

    I bank with HSBC and another local bank.

    Any help would be highly appreciated,

    Thank you.

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    Denver-Based Healthcare ICO Issued Cease and Desist for Offering Securities

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 10:45 PM PDT

    Wormhole Project Launches — $1.2M Worth of BCH Burned So Far

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 01:56 PM PDT

    The people behind Electron Cash keep producing very useful software products. Here is Electron Cash as a J2ME SPV wallet. This means it's becoming cheaper for people to run SPV wallets, since cheaper phones can run J2ME software.

    Posted: 01 Aug 2018 05:36 AM PDT

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