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    GPU Mining I created a dashboard to track price, profitability and projected point of breaking even for Nvidia GPUs (in Europe).

    February 21, 2018

    GPU Mining I created a dashboard to track price, profitability and projected point of breaking even for Nvidia GPUs (in Europe).

    I created a dashboard to track price, profitability and projected point of breaking even for Nvidia GPUs (in Europe).

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 04:10 AM PST

    I made a dashboard that pulls current data from a local price comparison site and from Nicehash in order to calculate the expected point of breaking even when purchasing a particular card.

    And because these numbers are less than reliable, and there is really no way to make them reliable, the fluctuations over time are tracked on line graphs to provide a better feel for which cards are a good buy at a given point in time.

    I found it particularly interesting to see just what a terrible buy a 1080 ti is compared to pretty much any other card.

    I decided to use Nicehash because there is really no other tool that provides such a simple and somewhat reliable way of telling you what your daily payout is, and its profitability is hard to beat if regular payouts are your goal. If your goal is speculative mining, then this dashboard is not for you (and I'm skeptical that a dashboard like would make any sense at all for speculative mining).

    Please note that this may look terrible on your device/browser, particularly because the data is embedded in iframes which are frankly the worst thing anyone has ever had to work with in HTML.

    Also, I don't know how long this will work, because the tables are from google sheets, and they have a limit for web queries that might get crushed if more people try to view the content.

    And please ESPECIALLY note that the expected point of breaking even shown here is just an extrapolation of current data. The real point of breaking even could be anywhere from next week to never. Your mining income can change drastically at any given point for reasons ranging from tanking cryptocurrency prices to skyrocketing mining difficulties (e.g. after the influx of next-gen GPUs) to government regulations targeted specifically at mining activities (because let's face it, mining presents a whole plethora of ethical dilemmas).

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    How To Overclock Nvidia GPU's - Equihash Mining - Best OC hashrates I've found for my 1080 TI 1070 TI 1060 1050 TI

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 08:49 PM PST

    PSA: Don't forget to factor in electricity AND taxes in ROI calcs.

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 04:33 PM PST

    Got about $2,150 invested in GPUs, mining about $17 per day. That gives an ROI of about 4.2 months. That's a great ROI.

    After electricity though, I'm only making about $13.50 per day, bumping my ROI up to 5.3 months. Not great but still acceptable.

    After TAXES I'm only making about $8 per day, which crushes my ROI, increasing it to 8.8 months. I probably wouldn't have invested with an ROI that high if I remembered to factor in taxes.

    If you can in your jurisdiction, make sure to deduct the cost of your cards against your income. Talk to a tax professional if you are not sure what you are allowed to do in your situation. If you are allowed to deduct 100% of the cost in the year you buy them, that mathematically offsets the impact on ROI calc, so you can disregard this post haha.

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    Is there anything still worth mining with AMD?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 08:53 PM PST

    I literally have 4 RX 570's 8GB sitting in the boxes. But they don't seem worth opening to mine with....Nvidia just seems so much better now.

    IS there anything worth mining with AMD that will net mem ore than like $6-8 a day. One of my 1080tis alone can make that.

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    Opinions on blower style coolers?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 05:57 AM PST

    I've been finding some deals for sub $850 1080tis that are either FE or blower style coolers and I'm very tempted to jump on them. I was wondering what the difference is in terms of performance/cooling to aftermarket coolers?

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    Worse than burnt coils

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 07:27 PM PST

    What new coins are worth mining?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 05:32 AM PST

    As we march down the road to PoS, ASICs and complexity bombs, I have to believe there must be new coins / tokens that offer better returns. What are you mining on your rig that isn't ETH?

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    Cant start z370-p

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 08:18 AM PST

    So i (tried to) build a miningrig, followed all instructions on the guides i could find online BUT now that im trying to start the rig, i cant ( i checked the instructions and followed them and stil cant start it ) i can just power it up and pres the reset and the powersupply and gpu´s just start up and close down. Anyone know what ive done wrong?

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    Thinking of starting a twitch channel where I combine gaming with mining/crypto

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 12:40 AM PST

    I've been streaming for a while but haven't had a way to keep it fresh for me. I thought a good way to tie in my 2 passions would be through a q/a style channel and where conversation amongst my chat would be viable. Tell me if you guys would be interested in such a thing regardless of whether or not you watch twitch streamers!

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    Ethminer Vs Claymore

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 08:00 AM PST

    So I'm only mining ethereum which miner should I choose? both of these show same speed About 15.80 mh/s on a 1050-TI Thanks in advanced

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    powering m.2 - PCIe adapter

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 07:42 AM PST

    Hi folks,

    What's the situation with powering m.2 - >pcie risers? All the adapters I see on amazon have the molex -> fan adapters included. would these work OK when powering a 1080ti (obviously in addition to pcie power direct from PSU).

    Thanks!

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    Worth building a 1060 6gb rig?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 07:28 AM PST

    Budget at around 3000$ .I'm thinking of building a new 1060 rig. Think it still worth it or should I go for 1070 or up?

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    First rig pic and some questions

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 07:27 AM PST

    https://imgur.com/DKnwb7s

    5 x 1060s + 1 x 1070ti. No 2 ones are the same thanks for canadian stores limiting purchases at 1 card of each type. Since pic was taken I redid the powering on the risers to separate them one per circuit and installed a rack of fans in the back. 2 x Corsair 850i, a bit overkill but I'm planning to swap out the 1060s for 1070ti as soon as I can get my hands on some 1070s.

    The rig seems stable, 1060s are running at 90% power 63-69 degrees(C), 1070 is 100% power keeps itself at 55 degrees.

    questions:

    1. how do people secure their graphic cards? Mine sit on the riser which has some felt on the bottom. They do look insecure, most of them are a bit slanted after 24 hours of running.

    2. how do people secure the little card that goes into the mobo? It seems like it's always moving around in the slot. Every time I shut down the rig I press them and they seem to have come out a bit. My solution was to zip-tie the usb cable in a position where it applies some pressure on the little card to stay in, but it's not fool-proof.

    3. what kind of fan control unit do you use? I feel like running 5 case fans at full power is a bit overkill there must be some fan control unit available

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    Where to get 240w adapters

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 07:12 AM PST

    I have a NEMA 10-50 receptacle which currently has a clothes dryer plugged into it. The breaker box indicates a 30A circuit. I want to split this receptacle into 3 typical NEMA 5-15 outlets, but I'm not having much luck finding an appropriate splitter or power strip type of product. Any tips?

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    Can any help me interpret my electric bill please?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 06:52 PM PST

    Any recommendations for a good ZCash pool?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 07:22 PM PST

    I've been using nanopool, but I believe that it isn't the best one out there... I've searched for other pools but I couldn't really find any factual data..

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    Just when things were going well

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 05:47 PM PST

    I currently have a 520W PSU and I’m using 254W with my current setup with a 1050ti. When I put a 1080 ti in on PCpartpicker, it takes it too 429W. So would I have enough power left (91W) to efficiently mine?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 05:38 AM PST

    Trying again to understand power draw

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 04:43 AM PST

    To make this really simple (for my sake), let's take the EVGA 1080 Ti FW3 as an example.

    The wattage is listed in the specs at 280w.

    Is there ever a time when this card is going to pull over 280w? For example, if I overclock, does that increase the power draw?

    Or should I always calculate power draw for this card at 280w or less when I shop for power supplies (with the "less" coming into play if I undervolt)?

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    Wind tunnel

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 03:59 PM PST

    How to mine FolmCoin (New PHI Coin, worth watching)

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 05:45 AM PST

    UPDATE: "Preferred smart outlet for monitoring power consumption?"

    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 12:26 PM PST

    I posted this thread about 10 days ago trying to figure out the best option for a smart outlet to use with mining rigs. Rather than try to decide on one based on online reviews and advice, I ordered all three that I mentioned in the post. I said that I would post an update once I had had time to review so here it is.

    I am not covering things that aren't relevant to powering a mining rig like scheduling on and off periods and stuff like that. Also this review is not comprehensive. Just some high level thoughts I have regarding the products. Additionally some of the pros I list for one product may exist in another product and I just didn't see the feature or specifically call it out.

    WeMo Insight:

    Pros

    • Setup for this one was not as easy as the TP-Link but it still wasn't hard or long taking.
    • My favorite thing about this one is the emailed usage reports. You can schedule to have them sent Daily, Weekly, or Monthly. It's just a CSV file that gives you detailed usage numbers, up times, cost based on the kwh price you set up on your app, etc. It's the number one thing that drew me to this product.
    • IFTT support. I have not used this yet but I really like that it's available and will use it eventually..
    • Able to enter your cost per kwh so that the app can estimate electric costs for you
    • Still able to plug a device into the lower socket on a wall outlet with the Wemo plugged into the top one.
    • Gives info on average up time, how long your rig has been running so you can determine how long it's been stable. Avg and current electric pull.
    • I really like the fact that as soon as you open your app you're immediately on the page that shows all the info about your insight. You don't have to open the app and then open the device. You may have to if you have multiple devices but if you're just using one it's immediately there
    • can access the device outside of you home's wifi network
    • Insight is rated for up to 15 amps at 120v
    • accurate power draw within 1-2 watts based on Kill-o-Watt reading.
    • can set a power threshold which can trigger an email if the device goes below that. This is great because if your mining software fails and your system idles, your power usage will drop significantly but not completely. This will let you configure the device so that it is "on" when mining and in "standby" when it's not so that you can investigate and address.

    Cons

    • I did find the app buggy/slow during initial setup but I don't actively use it on a regular basis so this isn't a huge negative for me.
    • Not a big fan of the tactile physical power button no the device.

    TP-Link

    Pros

    • Had the easiest setup of them all
    • rated for 15 amps at 120v
    • App seems to be pretty good.
    • I like the physical power button on the device.
    • can access the device outside of your home's wifi network.
    • accurate power draw within 1-2 watts based on Kill-o-Watt reading.

    Cons

    • No ability to enter in cost per kwh so app can't give estimates on energy bill. Huge negative for me.
    • After opening the app you still have to click into your smart plug to see info
    • No IFTT support from what I can tell
    • bottom socket becomes unusable when plugged in due to device size.
    • no historic usage reports or information.

    iDevices Switch

    Pros

    • outlet on the side of the device to avoid taking up more than one outlet
    • App seems responsive and fast
    • You can upload a picture of each of your rigs for each device you have to keep better track of which one is being powered by which device
    • 15 amp /1800 watt max load.
    • enter in your cost per kwh
    • Compare the rate you're paying with the average rate of the state you're in. This takes up half the app page but doesn't tell you a whole lot in my opinion so arguably a con.
    • accurate power draw within 1-2 watts based on Kill-o-Watt reading.
    • IFTT support

    Cons

    • have to click into your device upon opening the app like the TP-Link but unlike the Wemo Insight.
    • Setup was the hardest of the three. Could not get my phone to detect my device for several minutes. Took several restarts to work. Setup also required bluetooth for some reason.
    • cannot access/control your device outside of the wifi network it's on. Huge negative.
    • no emailed/scheduled/exportable usage report.
    • no detailed history usage information. Can only see total consumption for pas 7 days and past 30 days.

    Conclusion:

    I will be returning the TP-Link and the iDevices Switch and keeping the Wemo Insight and likely ordering a second one for my gaming PC. These are the main factors going into my decision:

    1. Detailed scheduled/emailed historic usage reports

    2. Remote access / control

    3. IFTT support

    4. Configure a certain power threshold as idle so I can receive alerts when my mining software stops working and my system is just idling.

    I share power costs with another person so I need to be able to determine exactly how much electricity I use each month so that I can subtract that from the amount that I split with that person. The WeMo Insight is the best fit for me.

    The TP-Link having no way to calculate energy usage is a huge negative and only the Wemo Insight has the usage reports. Also the inability to access/control the iDevices Switch outside of your home wifi network is a non-starter since I might end up moving my rig elsewhere or even just for wanting the ability to monitor it while not home.

    Let me know if you have any questions or want additional information/opinions on any of these three. Cheers!

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    Gtx 1080 for $600 is reasonable?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 01:37 AM PST

    Hey guys, I found msi's Aero for 610 or so, has anyone any experience with this card? What can I expect from them? Are they any good for mining?

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    Where to locate the rigs?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2018 01:11 AM PST

    where do you keep your rigs? I have two of them one in my guest room and one in the room I work /spent most of my time. Noise doesn't bother me at all since both are running 40-50% fanspeed max. Health complications? chemical emissions?

    Go.

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